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	<description>Advice at the intersection of work and life</description>
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		<title>By: The Value of a Master&#8217;s Degree in Engineering &#171; Stuff about work</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2005/08/01/is-grad-school-right-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-269128</link>
		<dc:creator>The Value of a Master&#8217;s Degree in Engineering &#171; Stuff about work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Trunk has written a lot about the value of grad school.  Or, more specifically, how there is no value.  She does focus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Trunk has written a lot about the value of grad school.  Or, more specifically, how there is no value.  She does focus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is Going to College Worth it? &#124; Navy Federal</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2005/08/01/is-grad-school-right-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-262730</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Going to College Worth it? &#124; Navy Federal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did so to prolong adolescent needs for grade-based approval. (Note: This analysis comes from writers at the Chronicle for Higher Education.) So, in other words, anybody who is considering going on to college and paying for it with student [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] did so to prolong adolescent needs for grade-based approval. (Note: This analysis comes from writers at the Chronicle for Higher Education.) So, in other words, anybody who is considering going on to college and paying for it with student [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seriously? Startups shouldn't hire people with graduate degrees? &#124; The Thinker</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2005/08/01/is-grad-school-right-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-262722</link>
		<dc:creator>Seriously? Startups shouldn't hire people with graduate degrees? &#124; The Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] substantiates this assertion as follows: Thomas Benton, a pseudonym for an assistant professor who writes a column for the Chronicle of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Startups Shouldn’t Hire People With Graduate Degrees &#171; route128 Capital</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2005/08/01/is-grad-school-right-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-260227</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Startups Shouldn’t Hire People With Graduate Degrees &#171; route128 Capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] school did it to prolong adolescent needs for grade-based approval. (Note: This analysis comes from writers at the Chronicle for Higher Education.) This is because the grad school model is generally outdated for today’s workforce, and high [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] school did it to prolong adolescent needs for grade-based approval. (Note: This analysis comes from writers at the Chronicle for Higher Education.) This is because the grad school model is generally outdated for today’s workforce, and high [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2005/08/01/is-grad-school-right-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-259178</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penelope may wish to consider employing a proofreader -- an occupation, by the way, that doesn&#039;t typically require an &quot;advanced degree&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penelope may wish to consider employing a proofreader &#8212; an occupation, by the way, that doesn&#039;t typically require an &#034;advanced degree&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Assech Omega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assech Omega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chineseenergetics.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Energy Psychology
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This is really helpful for all of US!!!</description>
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Energy Psychology<br />
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<p>This is really helpful for all of US!!!</p>
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		<title>By: OlyLife &#187; Is 4 Years of College Enough?</title>
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		<dc:creator>OlyLife &#187; Is 4 Years of College Enough?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We have all heard the phrase, “Education is the Key to Success,” and most of us believe that it is important to get a great education to open the doors of opportunity.  If you want to advance your career or have a great shot at a successful profession, you may want to consider graduate school. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We have all heard the phrase, “Education is the Key to Success,” and most of us believe that it is important to get a great education to open the doors of opportunity.  If you want to advance your career or have a great shot at a successful profession, you may want to consider graduate school. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GC</title>
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		<dc:creator>GC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I needed this post in 2002</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I needed this post in 2002</p>
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		<title>By: Should You Go to Grad School &#171; The Mind has Mountains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should You Go to Grad School &#171; The Mind has Mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 03:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the career blogger Penelope Trunk advises against going to grad school in a recession. At least for those not in the sciences. As one [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to the party, but I&#039;m currently hunting down graduate programs and was pointed to your blog by my husband, who&#039;s having a career-identity crisis.

Anyway. I think Bill makes a good point that you simply aren&#039;t addressing in any substantive way. I graduated last year with a BA in Creative Writing and was luckily able to land a job in the Content department of a Florida publishing company. No, I&#039;m not writing creatively at work. But, I am building upon editorial skills initially cultivated in my BA coursework. 

Ultimately, I want to take this to a higher level than I think I could reach staying where I am. I&#039;d love to edit for a local paper or magazine, or work as a teacher helping students improve their writing and their ability to analyze and glean meaning from written art.

The catch? Even the local paper and the county school systems don&#039;t want someone with only a BA. Never mind that I have teaching experience (albeit minimal) and PLENTY of writing and editing experience. I&#039;ve promoted and marketed my ideas and skills until I&#039;ve turned all kinds of colors. They want credentials, they want to see advanced education and training.

It could be a symptom of the local job market, sure. But maybe these employers want to see that people are willing to take the risk and make the investment in an advanced education. The Bachelor&#039;s is now the glorified high school diploma. Maybe employers want to know for sure they&#039;re getting as close to a prize stallion as they can, and not settling for any joe who graduates with his piece of paper.

I do agree with your running advice to take time after undergrad to gain some life experience. I did that (am currently), and I&#039;m glad for it. I wanted out from under the academia bubble that you live in while in school, for a while. 

But now I&#039;m realizing that for my career plans, the education I have isn&#039;t enough. An MFA would allow me to focus on my craft, make networking connections, and if it&#039;s not a pure studio course, allow me to further develop my analytical abilities and qualify me (even more) to teach. The programs I&#039;m looking at also have an editorial component, that is, an internship with magazines and other publications, in case my career goals shifted permanently in that direction.

I harbor no delusions of scoring a tenure track position without a lot of hard work and luck. But I&#039;d certainly settle for adjunct professor, community college professor, or heck, high school teacher.

End rant. If you still get notifications on your two-year-old posts, I&#039;m interested in any advice or rebuttals you have.

Kristin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#039;m late to the party, but I&#039;m currently hunting down graduate programs and was pointed to your blog by my husband, who&#039;s having a career-identity crisis.</p>
<p>Anyway. I think Bill makes a good point that you simply aren&#039;t addressing in any substantive way. I graduated last year with a BA in Creative Writing and was luckily able to land a job in the Content department of a Florida publishing company. No, I&#039;m not writing creatively at work. But, I am building upon editorial skills initially cultivated in my BA coursework. </p>
<p>Ultimately, I want to take this to a higher level than I think I could reach staying where I am. I&#039;d love to edit for a local paper or magazine, or work as a teacher helping students improve their writing and their ability to analyze and glean meaning from written art.</p>
<p>The catch? Even the local paper and the county school systems don&#039;t want someone with only a BA. Never mind that I have teaching experience (albeit minimal) and PLENTY of writing and editing experience. I&#039;ve promoted and marketed my ideas and skills until I&#039;ve turned all kinds of colors. They want credentials, they want to see advanced education and training.</p>
<p>It could be a symptom of the local job market, sure. But maybe these employers want to see that people are willing to take the risk and make the investment in an advanced education. The Bachelor&#039;s is now the glorified high school diploma. Maybe employers want to know for sure they&#039;re getting as close to a prize stallion as they can, and not settling for any joe who graduates with his piece of paper.</p>
<p>I do agree with your running advice to take time after undergrad to gain some life experience. I did that (am currently), and I&#039;m glad for it. I wanted out from under the academia bubble that you live in while in school, for a while. </p>
<p>But now I&#039;m realizing that for my career plans, the education I have isn&#039;t enough. An MFA would allow me to focus on my craft, make networking connections, and if it&#039;s not a pure studio course, allow me to further develop my analytical abilities and qualify me (even more) to teach. The programs I&#039;m looking at also have an editorial component, that is, an internship with magazines and other publications, in case my career goals shifted permanently in that direction.</p>
<p>I harbor no delusions of scoring a tenure track position without a lot of hard work and luck. But I&#039;d certainly settle for adjunct professor, community college professor, or heck, high school teacher.</p>
<p>End rant. If you still get notifications on your two-year-old posts, I&#039;m interested in any advice or rebuttals you have.</p>
<p>Kristin</p>
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