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	<title>Comments on: There are no bad bosses</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aviva Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2004/07/22/there-are-no-bad-bosses/#comment-157073</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviva Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm getting a sense - from your representative anecdote about what sorts of things a "bad boss" might do - that you haven't yet encountered what most people mean by a "bad boss."  

Although I entirely and wholeheartedly agree with you that "managing the relationship" proactively, without whining or feeling victimized, is the key to growing and succeeding in the workplace...a truly BAD boss - and they DO exist - is a person of such toxicity that there IS no "relationship" to manage.  

There is abuse.  There are poisonous and even evil deeds.  There is a black hole that all proactive, constructive, and mature behavior disappears into...as if it never existed.  

A truly BAD boss is toxic human being who will hurt others without end, regardless of ANYTHING they might do, or not do.  It doesn't matter.  A BAD boss hardly perceives anyone or anything outside of their own self-involved sphere.

I can give some examples...but not right this minute.  I'll wait to see if that kind of thing is of interest to anyone first.  

My real intent is to open the possibility here that "bad bosses" DO exist, and they wreak havoc on people and on businesses.  

You'll know it when you see it.  It'll be vastly different than anything you've even hinted at, or alluded to, in this blog entry.  

So, I invite you to consider - or reconsider - the catchy but false claim that bad bosses don't exist. This is far too facile a claim. 

There are bad parents.  There are bad people.  There are psychotic people.  There are - truly - real victims in this world.  The workplace is no different.  Like children with bad parents, there truly ARE workers with bad bosses - and in both situations, there's a vast power differential that cannot be overcome.  

In the case of adults with bad bosses, sometimes their only power is to leave that workplace.   Bosses who are psychically damaged - and in turn damage those around them - can be unyielding, unchangingly abusive.

So, regardless of one's emotional intelligence, nothing changes with a truly BAD boss. Those with high EQs usually choose to leave a bad boss; it's often the most constructive, proactive, and non-victim thing they can do in an unremittingly evil situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m getting a sense - from your representative anecdote about what sorts of things a &#034;bad boss&#034; might do - that you haven&#039;t yet encountered what most people mean by a &#034;bad boss.&#034;  </p>
<p>Although I entirely and wholeheartedly agree with you that &#034;managing the relationship&#034; proactively, without whining or feeling victimized, is the key to growing and succeeding in the workplace&#8230;a truly BAD boss - and they DO exist - is a person of such toxicity that there IS no &#034;relationship&#034; to manage.  </p>
<p>There is abuse.  There are poisonous and even evil deeds.  There is a black hole that all proactive, constructive, and mature behavior disappears into&#8230;as if it never existed.  </p>
<p>A truly BAD boss is toxic human being who will hurt others without end, regardless of ANYTHING they might do, or not do.  It doesn&#039;t matter.  A BAD boss hardly perceives anyone or anything outside of their own self-involved sphere.</p>
<p>I can give some examples&#8230;but not right this minute.  I&#039;ll wait to see if that kind of thing is of interest to anyone first.  </p>
<p>My real intent is to open the possibility here that &#034;bad bosses&#034; DO exist, and they wreak havoc on people and on businesses.  </p>
<p>You&#039;ll know it when you see it.  It&#039;ll be vastly different than anything you&#039;ve even hinted at, or alluded to, in this blog entry.  </p>
<p>So, I invite you to consider - or reconsider - the catchy but false claim that bad bosses don&#039;t exist. This is far too facile a claim. </p>
<p>There are bad parents.  There are bad people.  There are psychotic people.  There are - truly - real victims in this world.  The workplace is no different.  Like children with bad parents, there truly ARE workers with bad bosses - and in both situations, there&#039;s a vast power differential that cannot be overcome.  </p>
<p>In the case of adults with bad bosses, sometimes their only power is to leave that workplace.   Bosses who are psychically damaged - and in turn damage those around them - can be unyielding, unchangingly abusive.</p>
<p>So, regardless of one&#039;s emotional intelligence, nothing changes with a truly BAD boss. Those with high EQs usually choose to leave a bad boss; it&#039;s often the most constructive, proactive, and non-victim thing they can do in an unremittingly evil situation.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2004/07/22/there-are-no-bad-bosses/#comment-135111</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the book "Please Understand Me" which is about different personality types.  A lot of times, a person who may seem like a bad boss just has a different personality due to the way they were raised or because of genetics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the book &#034;Please Understand Me&#034; which is about different personality types.  A lot of times, a person who may seem like a bad boss just has a different personality due to the way they were raised or because of genetics.</p>
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